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Now hol' up. Any "damage" you experience is purely subjective.
9:43 PM
I'd definitely challenge you on that part.
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caused a lot of damage for us
9:44 PM
transitions from a fictional world to a real one, too deep into what I planned for them and how they have to act and acting outside of it no longer feels like its them. Having a base of nothing but parroting and such can cause that.
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So you're saying acts that borderline on parroting are okay if it helps get the ball rolling in terms of vocality?
9:45 PM
Sometimes it is easier if I 'push' harder.
9:46 PM
But that also kind of tenses up my mind.
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the issues they have are not entirely due to parroting but its a part of it for sure. However this is not a normal case and generally parroting is not something to be overly fearful of.
9:46 PM
Tulpamancy is very much fake it until you make it, and pretending to have someone to talk to in your head will eventually make it actually happen.
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Their actions that are "parroted" are still their actions, you are just added to the mix of who the brain thinks is doing the action.
9:48 PM
I also think parroted actions exist in something of a spectrum of different levels of dissociation.
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maybe our acceptance of parroting being a normal unavoidable part of tulpamancy has fed into the fact that we end up co fronting all the time. Things happen and we just don't give a damn on who did it. So it gets labeled as multiple people.
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Deleted User 11/3/2021 1:34 AM
It looks like we (me and Felicja) are out of subjects to talk about.
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make new experiences
1:35 AM
it happens between people too
1:35 AM
nee separate experiences can help
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Deleted User 11/3/2021 1:36 AM
i don't think that there is a place for anything new in our (my?) lives
1:36 AM
at the moment
1:37 AM
how about creating a Wonderland together and do some stuff in it?
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(we never had one; everything happened through proxying or imposition)
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Play some Ironsworn or Starforged with them. Solo RPGs are more interesting than wonderlanding by itself.
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Deleted User 11/3/2021 1:39 AM
sounds like a good idea.
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Zen
Play some Ironsworn or Starforged with them. Solo RPGs are more interesting than wonderlanding by itself.
Deleted User 11/3/2021 1:39 AM
is more interesting,because requires sticking to specific rules, (edited)
1:39 AM
so you have to be creative?
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Yes. But I'd say it's more interesting because it has stakes. It's a game. If you're just wonderlanding without rules you're just making shit up on the fly like a child playing make-believe. RPGs have goals and they have limitations, and you can fail in-character to meet those goals. Which really, is how you get drama.
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Deleted User 11/3/2021 1:44 AM
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how about simply taking a break from 'mancy?
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Unfastened Belts 11/3/2021 1:44 AM
Then @JGC wins :(
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Sure. I do that on the regular.
1:45 AM
But what are you going to do with the time?
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Deleted User 11/3/2021 1:45 AM
first. i need to "recharge"
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because of the long-lasting tiredness
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then
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i'll start looking for some new experiences (edited)
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Deleted User 11/3/2021 1:50 AM
gotta do something with the severe brain fog BECAUSE I BARELY CAN THINK OF FUCKING ANYTHING (edited)
1:51 AM
constant fatigue - both mental and physical (edited)
1:51 AM
sore throat
1:54 AM
also, i need to find something that i'll actually enjoy and not find a chore
1:55 AM
i have an appointment for a psychologist in 6th November
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Good to hear. I hope you find some contentment and stability.
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Deleted User 11/3/2021 1:58 AM
yah
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unfortunately Felicja cannot help or even assist me at all
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during the process
1:59 AM
because practicing tulpamancy requires the precious brain processing power
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go to sleep for 12 hours
2:07 AM
tulpamancy requires 0 brainpower it's literally just doing what you already do but slightly differently
2:07 AM
you've just invented a problem for yourself
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sh
tulpamancy requires 0 brainpower it's literally just doing what you already do but slightly differently
Deleted User 11/3/2021 2:08 AM
for me,it requires brainpower to keep Fel active
2:09 AM
a lot of it, in fact
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well you made that up
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sh
well you made that up
Deleted User 11/3/2021 3:13 AM
how to fix it?
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you should probably ask yourself
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Deleted User
gotta do something with the severe brain fog BECAUSE I BARELY CAN THINK OF FUCKING ANYTHING (edited)
Deleted User 11/3/2021 7:56 AM
Fix your sleeping schedule.
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Aki 💧❄ BOT 11/3/2021 7:59 AM
Also, don't force yourself to sustain your tulpa's activity.
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why are you creating a problem for yourself
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sh
well you made that up
Unfastened Belts 11/3/2021 8:18 AM
Didn't you recently accuse me of accusing you of that?
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quote it or i won't remember
6:03 PM
don't remember talking to you or even debating anything around you in last month
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sh
tulpamancy requires 0 brainpower it's literally just doing what you already do but slightly differently
Deleted User 11/3/2021 6:03 PM
how?
6:04 PM
!guides
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As GAT handles the guide stuff, I figured this is the best place to put this topic. But discussion is open for every single member of the forums, if you have ideas then please do submit them! Right, so we have that list of guides that hasnt been updated in a while and is out of date. While it cou...
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sh
tulpamancy requires 0 brainpower it's literally just doing what you already do but slightly differently
night demon (scaly system) 11/3/2021 6:04 PM
how can you make a tulpa without a active brain???
6:04 PM
so yea i will take brain power XD
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well hopefully your brain is already active
6:06 PM
just use that
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night demon (scaly system) 11/3/2021 6:12 PM
neh im 99% of the day brain dead and on autopilot
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night demon (scaly system)
neh im 99% of the day brain dead and on autopilot
Deleted User 11/3/2021 6:13 PM
Same, except not on autopilot
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Aki 💧❄
Also, don't force yourself to sustain your tulpa's activity.
Agree with this also yes tulpamancy absolutely does take brain power
9:11 PM
In our personal experience
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Deleted User 11/4/2021 9:12 PM
2:1 for the brainpower-eating forcing d00ds/galz/them (edited)
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Is it okay for me to try to proxy for Kana here? I just don't know the etiquette for when I'm still having difficulty picking her thoughts out from my own, and I worry I'll misinterpret or otherwise mess it up. I'm usually the type of person to want to try to practice a thing a lot before attempting it "for real", but maybe that's the wrong mindset for this
3:13 AM
Our conversations are still mostly one-sided, which seems to be frustrating for both of us
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Yeah, that's completely fine. That's in large part what this space is for. I would encourage you to address your frustration though. Forcing is easier when you're relaxed and accepting.
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Thank you, maybe not tonight but I think we'd like to try that some time soon And the frustration is something we've been trying to address, but it can be a step forward and a step back at times. Meditation helps, at least
3:21 AM
Doing our best to just enjoy the journey, will try to keep that in mind
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rovvy
Is it okay for me to try to proxy for Kana here? I just don't know the etiquette for when I'm still having difficulty picking her thoughts out from my own, and I worry I'll misinterpret or otherwise mess it up. I'm usually the type of person to want to try to practice a thing a lot before attempting it "for real", but maybe that's the wrong mindset for this
Deleted User 11/5/2021 9:58 AM
" I'm usually the type of person to want to try to practice a thing a lot before attempting it "for real", but maybe that's the wrong mindset for this" proxying can and very often is a part of practice. consider it a bit like driving a car, even after getting your driving license you actually never stop learning! and actually, that's when your real practice starts. it's same with all people, we learn who we are and how to live our whole lives, we are always in a tutorial so i hope you will be able to go a bit easier on yourself in that regard
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Devon | * BOT 11/5/2021 2:47 PM
our new tulpa seems to be sharing responses in a day or so. we're not sure if she's sentient already or Noodle's roleplayer brain is acting up
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Noodle | * BOT 11/5/2021 2:47 PM
we're assuming the latter since she doesn't have a presence like Dev does yet
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how do you mean you are not sure if the tulpa is sentient or roleplayer brain is acting up? (edited)
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Noodle | *>::<* BOT 11/5/2021 4:03 PM
tbh this is mostly me asking if vocality in a day is a thing. if it's not then i'll assume i'm "jumping the gun" and making up signs where there is none
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other people will be better to response to that (from what i heard it does happen to have vocality day one) but i wonder what makes you think it might be roleplaying
4:06 PM
but it seems you had other tulpas before? my understanding is that once your brain learns to create tulpas, the new ones develop much quicker
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My RP characters start with presence so I dont think that means anything.
4:12 PM
I think that has more to do with the quality of your visualization ability. It is not uncommon for something to be missing from a visualization and presence is just another visualized sense.
4:13 PM
Particulary when not relaxed or focusing on it. Or when just tired.
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Noodle | *>::<* BOT 11/5/2021 4:14 PM
once your brain learns to create tulpas, the new ones develop much quicker
i knew that, but not this quickly.
i wonder what makes you think it might be roleplaying
i used to roleplay a lot. i still play characters in my head often. the thoughts feel different from when I do that though. Maybe I'm just overthinking it
4:14 PM
i am not very good at articulating thoughts
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" I'm usually the type of person to want to try to practice a thing a lot before attempting it "for real", but maybe that's the wrong mindset for this" proxying can and very often is a part of practice. consider it a bit like driving a car, even after getting your driving license you actually never stop learning! and actually, that's when your real practice starts. it's same with all people, we learn who we are and how to live our whole lives, we are always in a tutorial so i hope you will be able to go a bit easier on yourself in that regard
@Deleted User - jump Thanks for this
5:35 PM
we're getting the hang of it
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A long kiss goodnight 11/6/2021 12:12 AM
tbh this is mostly me asking if vocality in a day is a thing. if it's not then i'll assume i'm "jumping the gun" and making up signs where there is none
Vocality as in a response in mindvoice? Yes. Vocality as in you can perfectly distinguish your tulpa? I have no idea. It's okay if you're not sure. Worst case scenario, your tulpa will change their mind and try something else. I also wonder if it helps if a tulpa has a place to start too.
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Deleted User 11/8/2021 4:31 PM
I have question. Is it ok to have tulpa who has no form. Cuz mine doesn’t and I don’t wanna visualise them so will it still work if I only nararate to them
4:32 PM
of course
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A long kiss goodnight 11/8/2021 4:35 PM
Yes. I highly recommend creating a form because it can act as another outlet to communicate, but it's not required
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Flutters | *>::<* BOT 11/8/2021 4:35 PM
Helps in focusing on them, but if you can do that without a form then sure
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Deleted User 11/8/2021 4:36 PM
It's not obligatory, like many things. The real question is if you are able to form a bond with a character who doesn't have any appearance.
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Deleted User 11/8/2021 4:44 PM
some people don't have problems forming a relationship with god without any form
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They often have an imaginary appearance of that God though.
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Chrome | Shadow System BOT 11/8/2021 4:53 PM
I don't think talking to God (the Christian one) is the same thing as talking to a tulpa. I have heard the general expectation is you can "talk" to God but He may not answer back immediately or at all. If He does speak, He does so through life altering events. Otherwise, I think God is supposed to be a safe person to vent to? It's definitely not the same kind of relationship you get from talking to a tulpa. While you can share with your tulpa in a safe way, that doesn't apply to every tulpa. Tulpas also communicate the way you do, not through miracles or vague supernatural signs. Unlike God, a tulpa can also be angry with you and ask you for favors.
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